How not to B33!

Started by Dan_B33, 17 Oct, 2023, 18:43

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Dan_B33

Hello Neil,
I will tell you when it comes back to me.

I think it will be irrelevant to give any measurements from before.

Dan
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Dan_B33

Hello,
Piston company called me today.
They of course take no blame.
However the have removed high spots and honed the cylinder.

When I have it back will make measurements to get you opinion.
Will start searching for possibility to fit some good quality piston to what I have in cylinder.

Looks like tis season will be on W650 rather than BSA.

Who knows?
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Dan_B33

By the way they say the fit for cylinder piston is 0.1mm which is standard for air cooled engines.

Will se to the measurements
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iansoady

That's about .004" which I would say is on the tight side for a B33.
Ian.
1964 Norton Electra
1969 BSA / Suzuki DZR400 / Steib S501
2016 Herald Classic 250

neil1964

There are solid vs slipper types of skirt requiring different tolerances.

It will be interesting to know which type you have in your iron barrel.

I would be inclined to accept a touch of piston slap when cold vs nipping up.

iansoady

Quote from: neil1964 on 11 Apr, 2025, 11:08 I would be inclined to accept a touch of piston slap when cold vs nipping up.

Always my attitude too. Plus it means, with the limited mileage I do these days, that I don't have to spend months running in. As long as it's not smoking too much / fouling plugs I'm happy.
Ian.
1964 Norton Electra
1969 BSA / Suzuki DZR400 / Steib S501
2016 Herald Classic 250

Ian C

Quote from: iansoady on 11 Apr, 2025, 09:55 That's about .004" which I would say is on the tight side for a B33.

I agree.. BSA Service Sheet 701 states 0.0045 to 0.0065" for the B33 plus 0.010" for ring gaps.

Dan_B33

Good read as always.
I will give a call to them tomorrow to check if it is already on portage.

When you say we start 0.0045" what would be your recommendation? 0.005"?

Dan
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Ian C

As others have stated Dan, you're better to have some piston slap when cold than to have the clearance too tight, so it is up to you what to use.

Derek996

If BSA state  .0045" to .0065" then I would go for .005"
1948 BSA ZB32 Competition
2015 Ducati Scrambler Classic

Dan_B33

Thanks Derek for straight reply.
Problem in here (Poland) is whoever I'm asking they sate 0.1mm (0.004") like mantra for all aur cooled engines.

I Wii go for 0.005" if possible.

Yesterday printed petrol tank inside wit special paint.

Started with installation as well
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Derek996

Quote from: Dan_B33 on 13 Apr, 2025, 17:39 Thanks Derek for straight reply.
Problem in here (Poland) is whoever I'm asking they sate 0.1mm (0.004") like mantra for all aur cooled engines.

I Wii go for 0.005" if possible.

Yesterday printed petrol tank inside wit special paint.

Started with installation as well
0.005" = 0.127 mm. Surely they can bore to give a 0.125 mm clearance which is was near as make no difference or a clearance of 0.15 mm is .006". Either of these should be ok.
1948 BSA ZB32 Competition
2015 Ducati Scrambler Classic

iansoady

I always struggled with metric / imperial conversions till I realised that 1mm = .040" (or near enough, at least for my purposes).
Ian.
1964 Norton Electra
1969 BSA / Suzuki DZR400 / Steib S501
2016 Herald Classic 250

Dan_B33

I think I will go for 0.006".
This shall do.
0.005 might be still too tight.

Won't take risk. I would like to start riding it without problems from piston side.

Dan
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Dan_B33

Hello,
The company finally made their homework and expressed their apology.

Unfortunately I had to send the set to them again.

Reference to the BSA manual wit a page number was of a great use.

Now waiting they will to it properly and send it back.

Many thanks for your help !


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