A65 Lightning project......

Started by geraldhattrick75, 09 Oct, 2019, 19:36

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idie

Does the bike play rock and roll music like Christine. If you speak to the bike nicely it might like Christine repair itself.

geraldhattrick75

News flash....
Saturday the 22nd she was kicked into life... by my son in law Lee.... Sounds sweet. (Incidentally, it's the first bike he's even kick started..... The grin on my face was only surpassed by the grin on his....)

The cause of all this uneccessary kicking?  A blocked pilot jet.... I thought I'd cleaned everything out but had missed this.

Which proved what Dave B had mentioned earlier, "confirm the primary side"....

Thanks everybody for all your help, suggestions and support- throughout.


Now to finish all the lesser things (loose steering, missing steering damper, adjust carb properly and final tightening of all nuts and screws... Then a quick ride around the village) and start re- polishing it all.



Glad I didn't post the parcel (and it was all packaged and addressed) off to Allen's.... 

DAVE BRADY

Hi,

The grin on my face is probably not quite as wide as yours and it is great that your tenacity has paid off.  Get those 'shake down' jobs done and get it on the road.

Dave.

FirebladeDreamer

Very happy to hear that. Now what about that keep or sell decision.

Talisker

Well done, I have been willing it to start since I started reading the post.

geraldhattrick75

Thanks guys, very much appreciated.

Add to my previous list: must learn how to start it myself......

But hey, if my son in law can get it going I certainly can...... More practice required.

Thanks again though.

FirebladeDreamer

Don't underestimate the power of young legs.

geraldhattrick75

#322
QuoteDon't underestimate the power of young legs.

Wot? Even against my bionic pair of fairly new knees?


I'll get the hang of it and, once that engine starts I'll run it till it's properly warmed up then set the timing up correctly with the strobe..... (Can that be done through the primary side aperture, using the marks on the engine rotor and stator?)

DAVE BRADY

Hi Dave,

A few things that may help with starting.
SRM recommend 32º advance rather than 34º to compensate for modern fuels also the older Boyer has a bit of a narrow advance with later versions being a bit better.  Pazon, a Boyer derivative, has a wider range of advance.  This, in theory, means that the timing is more retarded for starting so if you continue to have difficulties perhaps a switch of ignition may help.
Also, with the Mikuni having no tickler it is not easy to tell if the float bowl is full prior to starting.  What I would do is put the fuel on, then walk around the bike and push the start/choke lever down, walk back around the bike.  This gives plenty of time for the fuel to fill the carb. Then turn the engine slowly to draw some mixture in, turn on the ignition and kick with very little or no throttle.
Strobe timing is done using the pointer on the case and the line on the rotor but if you are going for the SRM suggestion then allow for that.

Dave.

Guitarzanbikes

Fantastic stuff Dave, am so so chuffed you have got her running! Hope you can get to use and enjoy her! We'll have to catch up and have that drink mate! Well done on all that perseverance, I know exactly how you feel! All the very very best Mark
1972 A65 Lightning
1959 A10 Golden Flash/Watsonian Palma Combo
1968 B44 Victor Special
1968 Triumph TRW250 Trophy
1972 Triumph T150V Trident
1997 Triumph Sprint Sports

geraldhattrick75


QuoteFantastic stuff Dave, am so so chuffed you have got her running! Hope you can get to use and enjoy her! We'll have to catch up and have that drink mate! Well done on all that perseverance, I know exactly how you feel! All the very very best Mark
Sounds like a good plan Mark....



Hoping to do the 'proper' timing on Wednesday Dave so I'll apply 'wot you said'.... Meticulously.


Further comments on my 'pathetic knees' will be reported to the police..... (It's offensive to old farts with pathetic knees...)


So there...

geraldhattrick75

Mark, you have a 'Message' mate.

geraldhattrick75

#327
Well, she (Christine) don't give up easy....

Me and a mate got her running nicely today and let her warm up so that we could get the strobe on her.

Wheeled her onto the drive, went to get the strobe and... holey schmoley! A lake of oil was forming under her.

Engine off. Clean all ther oil from underneath...... Then a close inspection which revealed that the oil was pumping mainly out of the chain oiler (inside rear of primary chaincase) but, more significantly there was a kink in the return pipe to the spin off filter- and the oil tank contents were rather low...... Doh! (To be fair, having spotted the kink earlier, I had confirmed that oil was returning to the tank, so thought it was working ok....)
All my own work.....eh?


New plan is to remove the spin off filter and just stick with the traditional 'one pipe in and one pipe out' arrangement. (think about introducing the spin off jobbie once the bike has proved it can do what its supposed to do...)



The drive has now been cleaned, as has a portion of the garage floor.... which I shall be lying on tomorrow.

One foot fowards... two feet back.



Oh, and the tacho was reading 4k rpm, when it was doing about 1200.... Anyone know the likely cause please?....... Wrong drive gear?

Many thanks,
Dave

geraldhattrick75

I've reset the oil pipe arrangement to a two pipe system, and started the engine to confirm oil return.
After 10 minutes of running- no leaks or puddles.

On with the tidy up.......

JulianS

The drive gear for tacho is fixed by the crank and oilpump worm at 3:1.

Probable that either tacho is the wrong one, or it is damaged.