How not to B33!

Started by Dan_B33, 17 Oct, 2023, 18:43

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neil1964

Quote from: Dan_B33 on 15 Dec, 2023, 13:41
And pic of Japanese....open just from one side....smart wet sum oil won't flow to the primary case....I guess?
That is actually quite a good idea.
I do the same with the gearbox high gear bearing, leave one seal in and use a modern oil seal and SRM nut for the sprocket to try to keep oil in the correct place.

Dan_B33

....oil tank turned out to be reservoir for grinded metal....
Clean now...
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neil1964

I've put a Norton Commando oil filter in the return line of my ABSAF 600 (it fits inside the toolbox of a swinging arm bike)

Dan_B33

Happy 2014 to you ALL!
I have seen some tricks already in internet on how to install oil filter.

Some progress update:
Barrel and piston are ready (back to the STD size with new tube fitted)!
Cylinder head under construction by some old chap (former Speedway competitor)
Same person will look after big end.
Waiting for parts to make gearbox refurbishment....
Same for front forks!
Telling king story short ...almost nothing is done and nothing works but my spirit is high!
Dan
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Dan_B33

And forgotten to ask: any ideas, hints how to remove central stand?
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neil1964

Quote from: Dan_B33 on 05 Jan, 2024, 16:06
And forgotten to ask: any ideas, hints how to remove central stand?

It is a single stud with internal tube lining the stand. Simply undo the nuts and drive the spindle out. No need to undo the spring until spindle out. 

Dan_B33

Hello Neil,
Thanks for explanation.
I have impression that spindle is bent.
I have tried some force but no too much....and it goes nowhere.
I guess I need to re-fit gearbox to get all that bit of frame more stif...what do you think?
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neil1964

Typically releasing fluid, then time, then more fluid, heat, hammer, for fluid, more heat, bigger hammer etc.

I'm sure you have been doing these things already.  The S/A models have a central bolt that fits inside a spacer tube which has a groove that helps distribute the grease from the grease nipple.  I've not worked on a plunger/rigid model so there may be more tips and tricks.

Try to preserver the stand tho' as they can be expensive for genuine items.  The spindle/stud and spacer are likely to be sacrificed unfortunately.

Derek996

Attached is a screen shot from the parts list showing the centre stand (69). It mounts between the engine plates on an internal distance piece (71) with a stud (72) through it and a nut and washer at each end.
Once the stud is knocked out you should be able to withdraw it down between the plates. It is likely that the stud is seized into the internal sleeve/distance piece.
1948 BSA ZB32 Competition
2015 Ducati Scrambler Classic

cdsdorset

Use a copper hammer. A normal one will just bounce and not transfer much force through the spindle

Dan_B33

Thank You!
Withe the graph and advise I will manage....will post picture when I have it out.
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cdsdorset

Morgo and thunder engineering both make small well engineered remote filters.

neil1964

Quote from: cdsdorset on 10 Jan, 2024, 09:09
Morgo and thunder engineering both make small well engineered remote filters.

I've had a look at both of those and they look neat.
I guess main issue will be use of an easily acquired filter can or element.  The commando ones can be got from anywhere like Halfords.

Dan_B33

Still no joy with central stand. Spindle is likely bent....I mnight be forced to gently cut it out.
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Derek996

If you are going to cut it out I'd suggest using a multi tool with a carbide blade suitable for metal cutting. You could cut through the spindle at either end of the centre stand which will allow it to come out. Hopefully the inner sleeve with the remaining spindle inside it would then knock out. I used the method with a multi tool very successfully to remove the rear shock from a Ducati Multistrada 1200 which had the lower bolts seized into the swinging arm.
1948 BSA ZB32 Competition
2015 Ducati Scrambler Classic