What's wrong A65 silencer fitting issue

[geraldhattrick75]

Having just bought a 1965- A65 silencer, I tried fitting it today and, given the closeness of the kickstart as it passes the silencer, the fact that it touches the frame in order to do so, and the bracket location being rear of the fitting bolt feel that it might not be the correct silencer.

The front pipe of the silencer should be some three inches longer and the tail pipe shorter.....

What are your thoughts please?

Thanks,
Dave

[chaz]

where from?

[DAVE BRADY]

Hi

It looks almost the right shape and the inlet out let pipes look right.  It should go on the exhaust pipe a bit further so that the mounting is more in line with the footrest lug.  It might be worth fitting the mounting plate and line it up with the footrest lug to see where it then sits.  It may move it down and in a bit so clearing the frame and the kickstart a bit more. The exhaust pipe may also move a bit to get it lined up. 
I would think that even original parts would not be a perfect fit so who knows with pattern ones. 
The Clubman kickstart that you have fitted may be shaped to take account of the different design of the Clubman silencer which indeed does have a longer inlet pipe but is also offset. Do you have a standard one to try?

Dave.

[geraldhattrick75]

where from?

britishmcparts.com (manchester tel 01274 299279)

It looks almost the right shape and the inlet out let pipes look right.  It should go on the exhaust pipe a bit further so that the mounting is more in line with the footrest lug.  It might be worth fitting the mounting plate and line it up with the footrest lug to see where it then sits.  It may move it down and in a bit so clearing the frame and the kickstart a bit more. The exhaust pipe may also move a bit to get it lined up.

Unfortunately, the more I moved the pipe towards the front (and lined up with the footrest mounting bolt), the more the silencer widened- meaning the kickstart had no chance of clearing it.


I would think that even original parts would not be a perfect fit so who knows with pattern ones.
The Clubman kickstart that you have fitted may be shaped to take account of the different design of the Clubman silencer which indeed does have a longer inlet pipe but is also offset. Do you have a standard one to try?

Unfortunately not Dave.

I had thought of fitting some kind of in-line adaptor to push it back two or three inches, but that would make the bracket 'off- set' situation even worse.

I'll contact them tomorrow and see what they might be able to suggest.

[A10 JWO]

The down pipes on mine almost hugged the frame, sounds like they could be for another year. Good luck.

[geraldhattrick75]

Thanks.... Gonna be interesting for sure....

[geraldhattrick75]

Had a chat with William of britishmcparts.com who is keen to find a solution...

He says the Goldstar silencer, being narrower at the front, ought to fit, as has been done by others.....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BSA-DBD-34-Goldstar-Silencer-with-Straight-Inlet-Reducer-Kit/264470422034?hash=item3d93aa6212:g:KlcAAOSwA3dYFijh

I'm also wondering if my kickstart lever is cranked out enough.

Does anyone have any measurements for the 'Clubman' kickstart lever please?

Thanks,
Dave.

[idie]

Looking at some pictures of A65s in the mags I would say no. The ones I see do have a crank on the kick start lever. I would investigate further before you condemn what you have.

[DAVE BRADY]

Hi,

The silencer you have is pretty much standard and the kickstart lever is a Lightning Clubman.  Is the problem that the Clubman kickstart is designed to be used with the Clubman silencer which is quite different to a standard one?

Dave.

[JulianS]

I think the Clubman kickstart is more tucked in to clear the gear lever  in the reversed position. I think you either need the Clubman silencer  to go with the kickstart or the standard kickstart to go with your silencer.

Having said that, it is not unusual to find that pipes and silencers do not fit as well or as easily as they should.

Armours list a Clubman silencer;

https://www.armoursltd.co.uk/product/silencer-bsa-a65-clubmans/

[geraldhattrick75]

Thanks guys, that all sounds right to me..... Gotta go for a clubman silencer then......

I'll let you know how it goes....

Regards,
Dave.

[geraldhattrick75]

Well, 7 months later my latest situation is.... pretty much as it was 7 months ago. (The silencer has been returned to Britishmcparts (don't ask me about the pallaver I had with Hermes on that one) and William of britishmcparts has sent me two silencers that won't even go on the exhaust pipes and is not bothering to reply to most of my phone calls anymore....)


I'm at the point of writing off the £90.00 I paid, as I don't see any other course of action. (suggestions would be appreciated...)


Has anyone on the site ever dealt with WWW.britishmcparts.com and if so, what was your experience like?.....

[DAVE BRADY]

Hi,

Feked list a Clubman's silencer.  Never used them but some positive comments on this Forum.

Dave.

[chaz]

from the top of my head, Fekd was Sammy Miller's, Millers based in Southampton, Armour's based along the coast at Bournemouth, I know there have been a few problems with their systems in the past/ someone has posted a Midlands firm having the original patterns , but over years some parts may have been changed so who knows what you have is right or wrong.

[ChrisG]

I have bought two systems from Armours and neither fitted. The downpipes for my OIF A65 pointed upwards as they left the cylinder head.
I would recommend Feked. Gordon, the owner actually makes them on site.