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The BSA Workshop => Twins => Topic started by: Keith R on 23 Jan, 2024, 11:37

Title: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Keith R on 23 Jan, 2024, 11:37
I intend to make a new wiring harness for my 59 Gold Flash.  Can anyone advise what range of wire sizes (AWG) I should be looking at?   From what I can make out 18 AWG should be sufficient for the bulk of the loom.

Any help will be much appreciated.
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: TTJOHN on 24 Jan, 2024, 10:47
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Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Keith R on 24 Jan, 2024, 16:09
Thanks John
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Phaedrus on 25 Jan, 2024, 11:17

On my B33 I used a mix of 14/0.3 and 28/0.3, with the thicker cable for headlamp, battery and dynamo/regulator connections (the dynamo F terminal can use the smaller size).  I would also run a separate earth connection to the rear light assembly.
Philip.
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Greenfield on 25 Jan, 2024, 11:50
I would recommend using separate earth connections rather than relying on the frame. Bring them all together out of sight but still accessible. Add a couple of fuses, one for the brake light and horn and another for the rest. The brake light and horn aren't usually fused but I had a problem once where an internal short developed in the horn during a ride and I only noticed it when the ammeter showed a high charge rate. I pulled over and found the hot wiring which was quickly disconnected before it burnt out.
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Dean Southall on 25 Jan, 2024, 12:42
If you are converting to 12v (and why wouldn't you!) you can reduce wire gauge thus making the harness much easier to feed around the bike and less conspicuous.
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: LIONELSMITH on 31 Jan, 2024, 10:56
I would always over engineering the wiring. When I re-designed the new loom including new equipment, I added all the loads in Amps on each wire, added for the circuit and doubled them and got the appropriate wire. I find it useful to design in Fuses so if you get a problem 1. Not everything goes down and 2. you know better where to look.
I don't like AWG American Wire Guage, Europe uses the diameter and number and size of copper strands.
I use a chart as below
AWG   Diameter   Area   Resistance   Max Current   Max Frequency
[inch]   [mm]   [kcmil]   [mm2]   [mΩ/m]   [mΩ/ft]   [Ampere]   for 100% skin depth
4   0.2043   5.189   41.7   21.2   0.8152   0.2485   60   650 Hz
5   0.1819   4.621   33.1   16.8   1.028   0.3133   47   810 Hz
6   0.1620   4.115   26.3   13.3   1.296   0.3951   37   1100 Hz
7   0.1443   3.665   20.8   10.5   1.634   0.4982   30   1300 Hz
8   0.1285   3.264   16.5   8.37   2.061   0.6282   24   1650 Hz
9   0.1144   2.906   13.1   6.63   2.599   0.7921   19   2050 Hz
10   0.1019   2.588   10.4   5.26   3.277   0.9989   15   2600 Hz
11   0.0907   2.305   8.23   4.17   4.132   1.260   12   3200 Hz
12   0.0808   2.053   6.53   3.31   5.211   1.588   9.3   4150 Hz
13   0.0720   1.828   5.18   2.62   6.571   2.003   7.4   5300 Hz
14   0.0641   1.628   4.11   2.08   8.286   2.525   5.9   6700 Hz
15   0.0571   1.450   3.26   1.65   10.45   3.184   4.7   8250 Hz
16   0.0508   1.291   2.58   1.31   13.17   4.016   3.7   11 K Hz
17   0.0453   1.150   2.05   1.04   16.61   5.064   2.9   13 K Hz
18   0.0403   1.024   1.62   0.823   20.95   6.385   2.3   17 K Hz
19   0.0359   0.912   1.29   0.653   26.42   8.051   1.8   21 K Hz
20   0.0320   0.812   1.02   0.518   33.31   10.15   1.5   27 K Hz
21   0.0285   0.723   0.810   0.410   42.00   12.80   1.2   33 K Hz
22   0.0253   0.644   0.642   0.326   52.96   16.14   0.92   42 K Hz
23   0.0226   0.573   0.509   0.258   66.79   20.36   0.729   53 K Hz
You may find the following web page from 12 Planet useful with a video and conversion chart https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/cable-sizing-selection.html
Title: Re: 1959 A10 GF Wiring Loom
Post by: Keith R on 31 Jan, 2024, 11:18
thanks, Lionel