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The BSA Workshop => Singles => Topic started by: highboy_coupe on 24 Sep, 2023, 13:06

Title: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: highboy_coupe on 24 Sep, 2023, 13:06
Hi, I recently installed indicators and an L.E.D headlight bulb on my B40F, to reduce the load on the system and get something better than a candle to light my way at night!
Perhaps because of the rather rudimentary electrical system on the bike, I am experiencing some strobing worthy of a dodgy nightclub! Has any fitted an led bulb? I believe something like a 9v  10k> capacitor in parallel with the bulb would smooth things out, that's a stab in the dark, excuse the pun!
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: scifi on 12 Oct, 2023, 00:31
Had the same strobing with my C11, and thought I would try a smoothing Capacitor, but could not find a suitable place to fit one somewhere on the 6v negative line.    I did touch the capacitor across the battery, but that did not stop the problem.   I think the voltage spikes from the dynamo somehow affect the inbuilt power regulator of the LED.   So I went back to the old style bulb.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: cdsdorset on 12 Oct, 2023, 09:15
Are you using an electronic reg/rec?
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: scifi on 12 Oct, 2023, 11:00
I don't know if you are asking me, but yes I was using an electronic regulator in the old relay box, which I have now renewed with an encapsulated one.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: highboy_coupe on 12 Oct, 2023, 12:06
Thanks guys,  I have not moved to a reg/rec yet. Just the standard 6v system at the minute.  I'll try a capacitor in parallel near the bulb to see if that makes any difference, and then just go back to a standard bulb!!
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: maddogmargetts@yahoo.co.u on 27 Oct, 2023, 10:29
thats interesting as I fitted a LED headlight onto the M21 and i have not seen any problems at all. Does it strobe
on low revs or all the time? The light is definitely worth persevering with because mine makes a big difference.
Sounds like what one of the other guys said in his comments about uneven charge from the dynamo which is why
i asked if it happened through the full rev range.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: DAVE BRADY on 27 Oct, 2023, 10:52
Hi,

It may be worth speaking to Paul Goff who supplies LEDs and lot of other electrical stuff.   01494 868218

Dave.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: highboy_coupe on 28 Oct, 2023, 20:49
Hi, thanks.

I have switched to 12v now and fitted a modern reg/rec
It was strobing all the tim bit pulsing in time with revs. It's a 65 B40 so no dynamo. 


I suspect it was just a badly controlled LED, they should have build on capacitors to smooth their operation but I may have purchased a crappy one.  I will look at the better 12v options.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: cdsdorset on 28 Oct, 2023, 22:18
Have a chat to Al at AO services.
Title: Re: L.E.D headlight on original 6v system
Post by: Derek996 on 29 Oct, 2023, 12:30
I think the strobing may have something to do with the rectified ac not being being sufficiently smoothed. A largish capacitor should smooth out any ac ripple although I'd have thought the battery would help with  that. I run 12V from a dynamo, which has been fully converted to 12V, with a Vreg-2A regulator. All the lights are LED with no strobing whatever.