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The BSA Workshop => Twins => Topic started by: ferretjuggler on 22 Oct, 2022, 13:15

Title: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: ferretjuggler on 22 Oct, 2022, 13:15
I'm thinking about buying one for my A65.
Specifically the OIF small export type.
Anyone on here bought one ?
Was the quality acceptable ?
I've heard some real horror stories about Indian tanks, but I've also known people who have had no problems.
I'll be quite happy if I get something that is solid, doesn't leak, and everything fits.
Is that being too hopeful ?
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: ducati2242 on 22 Oct, 2022, 13:52
I initially  bought one for my gold star , since got a uk made aluminium one made , the indian tank was as good as ive seen . fitted perfect and didn't have any issues . Good chrome and silver paint . I will see if I can find the supplier .

It was "royalchoppers" from their ebay account . here it is with indian tank and uk made tank .
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 22 Oct, 2022, 14:39
I have had 5 Indian tanks they were all ok.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: Mark Parker on 22 Oct, 2022, 14:41
I have an alloy Indian tank on my Firebird, it's big Spitfire shape with Monza cap. It seems well made. I only just fitted it and haven't used it for very long.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: ferretjuggler on 22 Oct, 2022, 15:33
Many thanks for the replies !
I'll have a good look online later on.
I bought some Yamaha bits from a guy a few miles away from me.
He reckoned that he "had to destroy" a Trident tank that he had bought from India.
Seemed a very strange outcome to me but still.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 22 Oct, 2022, 15:52
I have found that if you have a problem with a tank and you notify them they will just send another tank. They don;t ask for the old one back, to much trouble.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: ferretjuggler on 22 Oct, 2022, 15:58
That's possible.
Maybe he wanted to send them a photo of the tank destroyed just to prove he wasn't trying to scam them.
Or maybe he was just nuts - and felt that the tank needed to be put down humanely - like a sick animal beyond saving
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: MGI on 24 Oct, 2022, 10:22
My B33 was identified as possessing an 'Indian' tank when I was purchasing an electric starter kit (Nothing to do with the proposed starter kit, just an observation from a Guru) I enquired as to how this fact could be detected purely on a casual basis, with little inspection, I was informed that the quality of the Indian welding underneath the tank was superior to the original factory welding!
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 24 Oct, 2022, 11:13
I'll go along with that observation. How did you get on with the fitting of the electric start? I fitted one to my B33 in 2016, best thing I ever did.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: ferretjuggler on 25 Oct, 2022, 21:02
Wow !
I'm so glad that I made this post.
The last time I bothered to read up on Indian Tanks the reports were simply disgusting.
I understand that it's common to use a system of "outworkers" in India.
It would seem that they've tightened up their quality standards a great deal.
One tank that I can spot straight away is an Indian Triumph T140 export tank.
When viewed from underneath the UK tanks are slighty "wasp waisted" but the Indian versions just look sort of teardrop shaped.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: MGI on 26 Oct, 2022, 09:26
Idie... At the time it was fitted I was so pleased because I was waiting for a replacement knee and I literally could not kick the bike over. It transformed my riding experience. Nothing has changed since! It also removes the dreadful potential nightmare of stalling the bike when queueing and being unable to start it, causing mayhem and embarrassment. Costly but good value! Next on the list is a 5 speed gearbox! I am just about finishing converting the front brake to TLS. Not as simple as I had envisaged! Actually I have quite a long list of improvements I wish to make to what was/is a really good bike when it left the factory! Progress I suppose...
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 26 Oct, 2022, 09:53
I find that my B33 is a lovely machine to ride. I converted my front brake to two leading shoe some years ago. Upgraded to LED lights, at least I can see better. Unlike all my other bikes I still have the 6 spring clutch. For some reason it doesn't slip or drag and is light in operation. I have fitted an electric start to my 1949 M33 that was hard work, never again.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: MGI on 26 Oct, 2022, 18:44
Yes, my dynamo has been converted to 12 volts too with LED lights - far superior beam. I had some difficulty with the TLS mainly because the original lower mudguard bracket fouled the pivot point for rear section of the brake shoe. I increased the length of the securing bolts and introduced a pair of SS spacers to relocate the bracket over the top of pivot point, not ideal but as an interim measure it's acceptable. I have looked at several machines with these TLS brakes and some of them have the mudguard stay curving horizontally over the pivot and down to the bolt hole and some coming over above the bolt and then bending vertically to the bolt hole, both methods allowing the original bolts to be employed and lessening the problems with the other fixing points being slightly misaligned! I suppose the correct option is to change the lower mudguard stay to one with either of the two examples viewed!
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 26 Oct, 2022, 22:30
I converted my 8 inch half width brake to twin leading I did the same on my Shooting Star.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: Rob Neal on 29 Dec, 2022, 13:14
The new tank for my A65L arrived from India yesterday.  After ordering the tank I'd subsequently read all sorts of horror stories concerning their quality.  Well mine looks to be very good indeed.  First of all there's some decent weight to it suggesting a reasonable gauge of steel has been used.  The seams are all nicely finished and the Chrome work looks good too. The paint finish is very nice and equally well applied to the underside of the tank as well.  At £250 I think it's a good buy. Do watch out for the import charges though. HMRC (bless 'em) stung me for a further £74.  Still good value I think and at least I know the inside is rust free and clean.  I'll apply some ethanol resistant tank sealer.  Just need to source some BSA badges and knee grips.  The teardrop badges seem expensive at £45+ for a pair. Anyone know of anywhere selling at a better price?  Cheers. Rob
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: TTJOHN on 29 Dec, 2022, 17:05
I bought a Indian tank for my A7 from a chap called Rumy, I managed to knock him down on the price also, It came well packed, badged and knee pads painted and chrome ready to fit and the fit was good, one problem was the petrol tap holes needed to be cleaned up with the correct tap as it had quite a bit of paint in the threads. I was well pleased.

TTJohn
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: idie on 29 Dec, 2022, 17:08
I don't know what paint the Indians use on the inside of the tanks,I have had five but the paint has never come off even with ethanol.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: thackero on 04 Jan, 2023, 13:23
If you are considering buying any item from India you need to consider the following. There are some good quality items (tanks and headlamps to name but a few) available from reputable dealers on eBay for example Royal Choppers however the manufacturer of these items often has rejects with imperfections e.g. fit or paint or weld defects. Those reject items get distributed to dealers who list and post lower prices on eBay and use the same pictures to sell their products as the good dealers/ vendors. That why there are horror stories. You buy the cheap stuff and you get what you pay for. The Good news is that as stated in this post the good dealers are always willing to negotiate on price so there are happy customers.
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: Mike Farmer on 04 Jan, 2023, 16:50
 :) :) :) :)

those badges are cheap at that price

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Indian Tanks ?
Post by: chaz on 05 Jan, 2023, 15:56
Ive sold cheap parts on ebay, but they are what they are and its in the description.
A recent example is some late BSA wing badges, not as good quality and unpainted. The fact they were cheap and unpainted, means you paint them yourself so, dont blame me for the finish, pay treble the price  and get better quality ones, if you can find them BUT remember , when you leave the bike and the expensive ones get nicked or fall off then try to find the same quality again.