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The BSA Workshop => Singles => Topic started by: Pete Gill on 31 Dec, 2020, 10:27

Title: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: Pete Gill on 31 Dec, 2020, 10:27
Hi All,

Just rebored and fitted new piston. Cylinder head still off.
I'm just in the process of setting the timing and checking valve timing with a timing wheel i attached to the timing side of the crank. I have a dial gauge set onto the piston crown. As a matter of interest i checked the degree rotation of the ignition (7/16" BTDC measured on the gauge) this equates to 42- 43degrees BTDC on crank rotation! It sounds very advanced to me as most bikes I've timed tend to be 37-39 degrees. Am I somehow measuring wrongly or is this correct - is it due to longer stroke and lower compression than most bikes I've timed?

Pete.
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: idie on 31 Dec, 2020, 11:41
If you have the head off , stick a ruler down the bore and measure it as the manufacturer intended.
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: berniej on 31 Dec, 2020, 13:35
Also, make sure that you rotate backwards well past the point of max advance and then forwards again to eliminate backlash.

Cheers,
Bernie
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: Pete Gill on 31 Dec, 2020, 14:02
Yes thank Bernie and Idie,
I will do it by measurement as you say
But also what i was concerned about is that 42 or 43 degrees seems a long way advanced, and wondered if anyone could explain why this engine needs to be so far advanced compared to say a 1960s twin that's typically 38 degrees BTDC?

Pete
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: JulianS on 31 Dec, 2020, 15:15
The BSA data books show 7/16inch  BTDC or 38 degrees BTDC full advance for the B31.

Below from the 1952 data book.
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: Pete C on 31 Dec, 2020, 20:35
I measured this on my B31 and got 38° BTDC. Then I dumped the degree disc and stuck to measuring 7/16 with the head off.
cheers
Pete
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: Pete Gill on 01 Jan, 2021, 11:28
Thanks to all of you for your help with this!

Pete
Title: Re: B31 Ignition timing
Post by: Pete Gill on 04 Jan, 2021, 08:51
Hi All,
Further on this topic...
After more careful use of a dial gauge and a degree disc attached to the timing end of the crankshaft I can confirm and I measured myself that 38 degrees BTDC equates to 7/16" to set full advance on the timing.
I'm also using the disc to confirm opening and closing times for the valves.
Pete