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Title: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 07 Oct, 2020, 15:09
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Pleased to say that I got my rebuilt Sloper Crank back today. Done by Alpha Bearings Dudley. Looks like sound job.

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: GLENN on 07 Oct, 2020, 18:42
Would love to see a photo of your sloper sometime Mike! 

Glenn
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 07 Oct, 2020, 22:03
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Hi Glenn. At the mo the Sloper is spread around the south of england, When its more up together I'll post some pics.

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: GLENN on 08 Oct, 2020, 18:50
Looking forward to seeing the progress Mike!  Glenn
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 14 Oct, 2020, 19:54
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Hi. I've just started to remove the cam followers "tappets" from a spare casing that I happen to have. The actual followers are absolutely solid in their housing. One of the housings is also abso solid in the casing.

Are they a simple straight through stem the same as a valve in its guide, or am I going to find something complicated in there.

I dont want to damage a spline for instance.

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 15 Oct, 2020, 18:08
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Now have the answer.

Mike 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 17 Oct, 2020, 09:33
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Hi.

I am still having serious trouble removing the tappet housing from the casing on Sloper. I have tried all the normal things that I know including putting it in the oven at 200 degrees etc, and so far my success has included breaking open the jaws of a spanner The next action will need to be something drastic like welding a bar on to it. However before I go down that line can someone confirm that they are both the same thread and not that one is LH. Fortunately its a spare casing.

Then I really would feel a bit silly.

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Gadorey on 17 Oct, 2020, 10:26
Can you post a picture so we can see what we're looking at?  Something is wrong there. It shouldn't take brute force to get it out.
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 17 Oct, 2020, 11:58
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Thats my thoughts. so I'll put a pic on later if I can still remember how.

Mike 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 17 Oct, 2020, 12:58
Hi  ;) ;) ;)

Herwith some pics of the offending item. The Cam follower is completely free in the housing. But I cant shift the housing in the casing

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: mark quinney on 17 Oct, 2020, 16:43
Hi Mike
Couple of ideas may not help a lot but worth looking firstly there's a stud that goes alongside the housing that as a curved section cut out of it this fits about halfway down the housing (just a lose sliding fit )it sticks out the crank case and then goes through the timing chest cover and then as a  nut  that helps tighten the cover on . If somebody has tried to tighten in the past and snapped  it off against the cam follower housing  it may be the reason you can't undo it .
On one of my cases someone had tightened the housing  in and ripped the  Thread and I struggled to get it out, it was just nigh on impossible ,as you say welding a bar to it to give you extra turning ability may work but will probably damaged cases .
When mine did come out I ended up only having half off my theads left that we usable
Mark
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Pete A10 on 17 Oct, 2020, 16:49
There isn't a hidden screw anywhere is there? Similar to the fitting on the cam followers on the A10
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Gadorey on 17 Oct, 2020, 16:54
I don't think so.  I never took mine off, but the parts book mentions a plate, but you took one off , correct?  the threads should be the same.  Have you tried putting a good fittng spanner on it and instead of just forcing it, give it a few good taps with a hammer.  See if it moves even a bit.  if so you're on the right track.
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: GLENN on 17 Oct, 2020, 17:50
Hi Mike, I know you're familiar with the M20 and I recently broke a spanner taking the same part off on an M20.  It's the only time this has happened on approximately 12 M20/M21/B31 engines I've rebuilt.  I just used more heat from a propane burner and eventually it shifted.  All the best, Glenn
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: DAVE BRADY on 17 Oct, 2020, 19:01
Hi,

I had a pressure relief valve on an A65 case that would not move and was so chewed up nothing would grip.  I had read that striking an arc with an electric welder can break the bond of corrosion.  So, I thought that I would give it a try and just as a bit of insurance I would weld a spanner to it.
I struck the arc and blobbed a bit weld on but before I could put any force on the spanner the prv came undone as if it had never been tight.

Dave.
Title: Re: Sloper Rebuild
Post by: Mike Farmer on 17 Oct, 2020, 19:36
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Thanks for all your replies.

We'll see. Let you know

Mke 8) 8) 8)