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Shedman

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1971 firebird
« on: 02 March, 2018, 19:58:15 »
Hi just wondering if anyone can help in regards to how many OIF Firebirds were made. Ive been asked several times when ive been parked up on it and all i can tell them is not too many and its set off one of those niggly things in my head

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #1 on: 03 March, 2018, 10:49:12 »
The OIF Firebird was only made in the 1971 season, with second dating letter in engine/frame number as "E".

Total A65 production that season was almost 13000, most of the production being exported. About 1400 were Firebirds.

None made for 1972 season with second dating letter in engine/frame number as "G".

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #2 on: 06 March, 2018, 21:03:02 »
I have slightly different figures. 1,273 Firebirds in 1971. 115 in 1972. That 115 were in the 2nd week of August, after the summer factory shut down, so that is '1972' season for production purposes. So I'd also presume with the black frame, rather than grey? I don't know the US/UK break-down, but obviously the vast majority (90%+?) would have been for the States.

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #3 on: 07 March, 2018, 09:06:25 »
The August Firebirds (and some Lightnings and Thunderbolts) were marked by the factory with 1971 season letter "E" and numbers in the 1971 sequence not the 1972 season "G".

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #4 on: 07 March, 2018, 11:13:48 »
Were the frames different on these, I have a new old stock sump guard for my 1971 Thunderbolt. The lower engine stud don't line up with brackets at the rear side edge of the guard. Thanks.

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #5 on: 29 April, 2018, 21:29:21 »
It seems you gentlemen may have the means to assist me as well?   I have 69 A65T that was manufactured in Dec. of '69 (XC15950).  I can't find any resources to explain the last 5 digits and I'm wondering if they represent the production run or something else?  I'm  curious how many Ts they made in '69, if it can be determined how many were red, black, etc.  Can any of you gents help me out, or point me to where I can find this info?

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #6 on: 29 April, 2018, 22:44:23 »
Below service sheet explains the numbers -15950 is simply the production number.

XC indicates December 1968 not 1968 - read it as Decemeber of the 1969 manufacturing season which ran August 1968 - September 1969.

Finding out the detail is not that- the numbers for 1969 season were a continuation from the 1968 season and  there was not a separate series for the different model of unit twins and the despatch book entries for that time did not usually include the colour however the brochures for UK and US market gives the Thunderbolt colour as a black and chrome tank with chrome mudguards with no alternative offered.

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #7 on: 30 April, 2018, 05:47:28 »
Thx for the reply Shedman, but I'm still a bit confused with respect to your 2nd paragraph.  Am I to understand you to say that this bike was actually constructed in Dec of '68 as a '69 model, the production run of which concluded in Sept. '69, and that all were black that year and this is the 15,950th one built?  To me, almost 16K bikes seems like a high number for a 4 or 5 month production run (Aug '68 to Dec '68), or have I botched your interpretation entirely?   ???

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #8 on: 30 April, 2018, 08:58:35 »
The numbers started at 101 in June 1967 and continued to about 23000 in July 1969. Then reverted to 101 for 1970 season.

Those numbers included A50 Royal Star, A65 Spitfire Mk4 (for 1968), Firebird (for 1969), Thunderbolt and Lightning.

Below from 1969 export catalogue shows colours in the written description.

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #9 on: 30 April, 2018, 12:51:22 »
Hi there,

In regards to 1970 Thunderbolts (as that's what any Thunderbolt made after September 1969 counts as) my records have it that they made 3,643 in total.

In December 1969 they only came off the production line for two of the four weeks. It was Lightnings and (oddly) mainly Royal Stars that month.

They made 25 Thunderbolts in the week ending 12th December, and 225 in the week ending 19th December, but you'd have to consult the original factory records to track your particular machine down.

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Pete

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Re: 1971 firebird
« Reply #10 on: 30 April, 2018, 16:59:42 »
Thank you for the excellent information gents!  This site has been a tremendous resource for me.

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