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Singles / Re: C15T rear shocks - also chain slider?
« on: 30 December, 2017, 10:55:51 »
cee-b: What year is your C15T? I assume it is pre-66 and has a swan neck frame rather than the later welded duplex frame? Normally with a C15, the rear shock length is limited to 11.9" otherwise the swinging arm will hit the rear footrest frame extensions. The other problem, as you have found, it that even with the standard set up, the clearance of the rear chain above the swinging arm pivot is marginal.

In the case of the earlier C15T, the footrest frame extensions are missing but the rear shock length is still limited by the swinging arm pivot clearance of the chain. As standard they weren't fitted with a chain slipper and so the rear shock length was limited to 11.9" I believe the greater ground clearance for the C15T was achieved simply by using a 18" rear wheel rather than the standard 17" used on the road bike.

The original rear shocks were slightly different from the road bike but all that is available nowadays is the standard C15 shocks. Unless you are going for a non-standard C15T set up (eg by adding a chain slipper) the standard shocks are probably your only choice if you are trying to keep things looking original.

The Star and Garter / Re: dvla new commitie
« on: 28 December, 2017, 07:09:09 »
This thread was started by Eddie Simpson who said that one of the reasons his application was rejected was that the DVLA said that the date of despatch was longer valid and they wanted the date of manufacture.

As I now understand it, the factory records held by the BSAOC do not contain the date of manufacture, only the date of despatch. The Dating Certificates produced by the BSAOC have a statement in them: "Dates quoted therefore can be taken as the date of manufacture". However, it is not entirely clear what the justification of the word "therefore" is in this statement?

I know my last Dating Certificate (18 months ago) was accepted by the DVLA. I posted off my B40WD Dating Certificate to the DVLA yesterday and, if the Royal Mail don't loose it this time, I'm hoping that the DVLA will accept it and do what I've requested. I'll let you know what happens.

Singles / Re: The big day is nearly here..
« on: 27 December, 2017, 20:08:21 »
I've just run an engine (not BSA) that I recently rebuilt. I checked all settings and carb carefully before attempting to start it. I also squirted some engine oil into the cylinder and an turned it over a few times to make sure it was well oiled. Main thing to check once it starts is that you have a good oil return to the oil tank - if not then you will need to investigate why before running the engine for very long.

Singles / Re: B441 clutch lever
« on: 27 December, 2017, 18:25:44 »
PS. To remove the lever from the cover, you need to unscrew the pinion which has a LH thread. To do this you need to insert the rack in such a way that after rotating the lever CW when viewed from above, it is left pointing to the left when the rack is forced against the timing cover. Laying the cover flat on a bench and then tapping the end of the lever with a soft mallet should loosen the pinion. However, there is a risk that the rack will break through the timing cover and so carefully heating the pinion first helps to prevent this.

Singles / Re: B441 clutch lever
« on: 27 December, 2017, 18:17:26 »

There's not a lot of metal around the clutch lever bore - about 4mm on the right of the bore with less on the inside. At most you would be able to increase the radius of the bore by about 1mm but, given the force involved when you operate the clutch, you would probably be on the limit of how strong the cover is. It might be far better to get hold of another timing cover - there's normally quite a few advertised for sale.

The Star and Garter / Re: dvla new commitie
« on: 26 December, 2017, 09:06:49 »
Logically, I can't see why DVLA would want manufacture dates rather than despatch dates - the latter is when they actually left the factory. Worst case, the manufacture dates would need to be extracted from the original factory records - if BSAOC do not have a copy then they can be obtained from the VMCC. Hopefully, Steve Foden, the BSAOC Librarian, will be able to clarify the situation. In the meantime, I will be sending off my current Dating Certificate with despatch date to the DVLA :)

The Star and Garter / Re: dvla new commitie
« on: 24 December, 2017, 22:57:18 »
The VMCC now holds the BSA Factory Records donated to them by the Science Museum which I believe contain both the dates of manufacture and the dates of despatch. I'm not sure whether the BSAOC has access to the Factory Records for BSA or just has the despatch information. If DVLA needs the dates of manufacture, does this mean we would have to get them from the VMCC?

Triples / Re: MK1 paint
« on: 24 December, 2017, 09:47:48 »
RS Paints products are superb. They also have paint samples to work with from all the BSA bikes produced and so authentic colour match is second to none.

Triples / Re: MK1 paint
« on: 23 December, 2017, 20:07:48 »
Hi Rob.

I believe the colour is either BSA Flamboyant Red Candy or Maroon Candy for your '69 Rocket 3. I have experience of using the former. For this, the original paint scheme was to use a basecoat of metallic silver on top of which is the Flamboyant Red lacquer on top of which is the clear coat. However, when I painted my B25T and B50T in Flamboyant Red, I used a metallic gold basecoat which was considered better than silver at the time.

You can get either of the original colour schemes (with silver basecoat) from RS Paints.

The Star and Garter / Re: dvla new commitie
« on: 22 December, 2017, 18:07:09 »
I don't like the sound of the last point, especially as the 2 x dating certificates and 2 x vehicle reports I got today from the BSAOC only give the despatch dates!! I think the BSAOC may only have 'Despatch Books'??

The Star and Garter / Re: DVLA Woes
« on: 22 December, 2017, 13:59:18 »
A new set of Dating/Vehicle Certificates arrived today and I'm grateful to Steve Foden for supplying these with a very short turnaround. I've now got enough to ensure that there's a reasonable chance that Royal Mail will deliver at least one safely to the DVLA and not loose it on the way >:(

Singles / Re: B44 riders
« on: 22 December, 2017, 10:14:50 »
What top speed can you get?
I can get 85 MPH on the clock.
BUT, check against a sat nav shows its only 75 MPH.
Are they all like that?
The manufactures have to err on the side of speedos that read high - they can't sell a bike with a low reading speedo for obvious reasons. Normally, the allowed error is +10% max but as the magnetic speedos age, the return spring weakens and they will inevitably produce a larger error. In principle, the return spring can be renewed but it would be a lot of effort for a small return. When I feel the need, I calibrate my speedos against a GPS device and then note down (and remember) the error at each 10 mph speed interval.

The Star and Garter / Re: DVLA Woes
« on: 22 December, 2017, 07:09:53 »
I'm presently waiting for another set of Dating Certificates so that I can start the whole process off again. In the meantime, I thought I'd a least get some compensation from the Post Office for loosing my original DVLA application and Dating Certificate. This was easily done and at least they apologised for what had happened although this was a relatively small compensation.

Twins / Re: Frame numbers?
« on: 21 December, 2017, 17:14:50 »
The point of the V888 enquiry would be to see what information DVLA holds about the time and circumstances of its registration, not to seek personal information.
Normally that information should be on the V5C, especially under Sec. 3: Special Notes.

Twins / Re: Frame numbers?
« on: 21 December, 2017, 15:06:51 »
Unfortunately, they won't provide info on past owners under normal circumstances via the V888 - data protection and all that! What I did manage to get from them once via a V888 was the name of the first owner - however, I knew this would be an organisation rather than a private individual (turned out to be Leeds Parks Dept) and I argued that it was for particular historical purposes (general interest in knowing what civilian organisations bought this motorbike which was designed for the British Army).

In the case of this A65, it's hard to see what argument could be used to even request who the first owner was - if some skulduggery has taken place, the first owner is unlikely to appreciate his contact details being made known to the current owner!

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