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General => The Star and Garter => Topic started by: robin smith on 06 September, 2017, 16:20:39

Title: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: robin smith on 06 September, 2017, 16:20:39

Having just received my September copy of the Star. I read with interest the article by Richard Stephens regarding his 1960 Spitfire restoration.
He states, despite it going to have a “Daylight MOT” a stoplight  is required by law!

Some time ago I took a bike with no lights “but with a stoplight fitted” for its annual MOT. To be told no lights meant just that! Requiring me to remove the stop lamp for it to pass!

He also states, apparently a “bulb horn” is no longer legally acceptable ?

Do we have any legal eagles out there, to clarify this potential confusion?  Who knows in the event of an insurance claim these details could be relevant!   

Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: cee-b on 06 September, 2017, 18:50:37
http://www.motuk.com/bike/manual.asp

You don't need a 'legal eagle' Robin, you just need the testers' manual.
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: robin smith on 07 September, 2017, 09:09:35
Thanks for that to cee - b

I have checked-out http://www.motuk.com/bike/manual.asp and discovered the following, which I find a little confusing in parts or is my advancing which is the problem?

Machines first used before 1 April 1986 must have a stop lamp that operates from at least one brake control.

Machines first used on or after 1 April 1986 must have a stop lamp that operates from both brake controls.

Stop lamp: All machines, except those which have neither front nor rear position lamps, or has such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are only used during daylight hours, and not used at times of seriously reduced visibility

Horn (Audible Warning) A motor bicycle first used before 1 August 1973 may be fitted with a bulb horn.
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: cee-b on 07 September, 2017, 10:18:51
Yes, it can be a bit confusing but, a 'broad brush' summary is:

Either no lights must work (they can be fitted and either masked over or permanently disconnected), or all lights must work.

The clauses/exemptions relating to pre/post Apr 1986 only apply to bikes with lights fitted.

The reference to bulb horns seems pretty unequivocal; pre-August '73 it is legal.

 
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: A10 JWO on 28 September, 2017, 16:04:52
No need for an MOT as from next year.
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: Mike Farmer on 30 September, 2017, 10:52:05
Hi

Heres a quickie. If I have a daylight only MOT does it mean that I cant ride it on rainy or overcast or any other days with some limiting visibility, when the law requires "dipped headlights"

Mike 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: BEEZABRYAN on 01 October, 2017, 00:06:58
Yes
Title: Re: “Daylight MOT”
Post by: cee-b on 01 October, 2017, 17:49:25
Yes again